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Sure. he is probably going to be judged under the espionage act, it sounds like spying, it's not. most of it has nothing to do with spying. it has to do with the unauthorised removal and dissemination of national defence information. in this case classified information, the details of the war in ukraine, intelligence estimates, things along those lines. that is what they will charge him with. they can also if they want throw in the kitchen sink, there is removal of government documentation, there might be an obstruction provision in there depending on evidence taken to conceal it, but the espi...

Trying to get a sense of where all these things came from, how they got there and what amount of knowledge trump himself, as well as his lawyers and immediate staff had and knew about what was going on. that is not only the espionage provision in terms of this unauthorized retention, that is the obstruction provision. that is why they tried to redact these names, and why the judge upheld it because to reveal that would put those individuals at particular risk of intimidation. >> it goes without saying that trump does not like leaks. throughout the trump presidency, there was a myriad of freak ...

Had already gone into them and thrown stuff in there and taken stuff out. we know that there were records classified properly classified records found in different parts of mar-a-lago, the former president's residence and his bedroom closet. things like that, they're trying to get a sense of where all these things came from, how they got there and what amount of knowledge trump himself, as well as his lawyers and immediate staff had and knew about what was going on. that is not only the espionage provision in terms of this unauthorized retention, that is the obstruction provision. that is why ...

They got there and what amount of knowledge trump himself, as well as his lawyers and immediate staff had and knew about what was going on. that is not only the espionage provision in terms of this unauthorized retention, that is the obstruction provision. that is why they tried to redact these names, and why the judge upheld it because to reveal that would put those individuals at particular risk of intimidation. >> it goes without saying that trump does not like leaks. throughout the trump presidency, there was a myriad of freak outs in the white house whenever there was information leaked f...

Their plates. but it also could mean that there's some tie to this case, either from the angle you just talked about or another, there's on potential obstruction provision. perhaps there is a public official that could -- that is at least involved in this case and could become involved. >> all really important questions to be answered. thank you so much. also this morning as more images and reports come out of inhumane conditions at the migrant facilities along the southern border, the president says he now wants the media to go inside and see for themselves. kaitlyn joins us from the white ...