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Report, a vast narrative that will show both how the cover up by donald trump of the obstruction of justice and trying to investigate things about russia and the interference in the campaign. he will show that obstruction and he is going to address the question of collusion. we don't know what he has. we do know he wants to present an integrated report that presents both of those issues. we have seen rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer, say out loud what many of us have been saying and told for weeks and weeks that the president wants to suppress the special prosecutor's report. they are loo...

Heart of this whole question of obstruction of justice. now, a lot of people will say, look, mueller made it clear he's probably not going to charge the president. can't charge a sitting president with a crime, so this goes to a question about report about impeachment and is the senate going to convict on a two-thirds vote this president on obstruction of justice? that's the big question, aaron, but this seems to be important movement on this whole question. >> glenn, i want your read on this, too. we have this statement from john dowd. what's your take on what's being said here? >> well, aaro...

Prosecution until the day the president leaves office. there are many pathways to sort of concluding and reporting out what he's found and the one thing i'm confident of is, none of it will be impacted by mr. giuliani sort of ever changing demands and concerns. >> ken, i wanted to ask you about this statement from giuliani. sort of sound like what we typically would hear, the reaction and response sort of par for the course as it relates to this investigation? >> yeah, absolutely, aaron. rudy giuliani has been singing this song a couple of weeks now. he wants the investigation to end and he wa...

Very narrowly on this obstruction question that hinges on that he said/she said between the president and comey. james comey has diaries. the only way to get the bottom of it is to talk to special counsel. one thing here is what we know, everything we know about robert mueller suggests that he's capable, imminently capable of keeping the main thing the main thing. while rudy giuliani may be out there offering conflicting stories, i think it's pretty clear the special counsel is going about their business in a pretty straightforward regardless. >> pretty straightforward and the contrast is stun...

Interviewed by the special counsel investigators. what part of the story is roger stone? >> well, i think he's more a part of the collusion, certainly part of the collusion question rather than the obstruction question. >> right. >> if there is collusion, that's where he fits. >> he's the colluder perhaps. >> one of the great mysteries about roger stone is he's like donald trump, a liar, lies all the time about things. he was always -- he made a point of being vague about how much he was talking to the president during the course of the campaign. it was always -- you could never tell whether h...