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Swalwell who works on the judiciary committee. i want to ask you point blank,j in your opinion, grounds for a second special counsel? and what is your response to the president's lawyer saying that their call is not about bob mueller's probe? >> good evening. no. there are no grounds for this call. it is actually more obstructive behavior and it is not what cooperating with an investigation looks like. this is in furtherance of obstruction we've seen in the past week. the president and his son are now asserting an attorney-client privilege that they believe prevents donald trump jr. from telli...

Do you think it sent a message in any way to anybody in law enforcement who was there or any of the other representatives, or do you think it was just kind of a perception issue? >> i think it is trying to throw their weight around. yes, i do think it is an effort to try to bully the department of justice. we've heard the president talk openly about bob mueller and rod rosenstein's jobs being on the line and that he has the power to get rid of them. anderson, i think the best way to stop this type of obstructive behavior would be to pass the bipartisan legislation that's come out of the senate...