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But since 1909, number two is robert e. lee. i think when we have so many other people, in 2017, is it really robert e. lee that we would say is the person we want to stand for who virginia is? i'm not sure it is. >> and you look at that. you have also in virginia two slave holders representing the state of virginia. >> right. and you could look at it two slave holders, two people that the most recent of whom was active in the 1860s. we haven't had anything good in the last 100 years that we think should respect us. >> there were statues designed to be removed over time. the only requirement i...

The access hollywood tape or the russian government? that's an obvious one. >> kimberly: it's clear that nbc news has been on a mission before and after the election to take down president trump. >> 2005 is the year that mr. trump married his lovely wife melania. this was their first jointly filed tax return as a married couple. that tax return would be used as a very important piece of evidence as to whether or not she should get citizenship. so you better believe that the 2005 tax return is going to be sterling, right? that it's going to display excellent citizenship and no red flags whatsoe...

Let's give two pages of my tax return to david k. johnson, someone very tough on him in the past, strikes me as improbable. i'm a believer in the random nature of the universe. >> absolutely not. i think you have to be open to the idea that wasn't donald trump that came up with idea but one of the advisers, steve bannon, somebody who strategically realizes if put this out and goes on msnbc and they try to trash donald trump, only bolsters the case for him. >> glad you're getting the wrath of jeffrey toobin tonight and not me. come on, don. but i've got to ask you this william. i got one of the...

Conservatives but populists, including donald trump on the campaign trail saying take care of everybody and nobody left out. and people believed that. and stuck up for planned parenthood on the campaign trail and people believed that as well. people are shocked to see the profile n poefl coming out will hurt trump supporters more than clinton supporters. >> saying lose that many, that's statistical shell game. assumes contrary to fact that the 19 states that haven't expand medicaid will expand by 2020 and saying they'll lose coverage. >> it's all a projection. >> implausible one. second one is...

President trump's -- then private citizen's tax returns on numerous news organizations. go back to the '80s, one in the "wall street journal." but indication president may have put this out himself. there's nothing bad for him. know something about his taxes, not a lot. does it fit what we already know? >> reporter: we should point out two page return released by another network this evening doesn't have all the attachments. when you and i file returns, don, every year, it's not just two pages, but multiple pages of documents and so on that are attached to that tax return. and perhaps yours is...