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Loudest voices without a doubt, matthew, are the folks that we're hearing from, who want to blow this whole thing up. then you have people like dusty johnson, who i think represent a pretty big chunk of votes in the middle and here's what he had to say about this. >> i think part of the problem with republicans is that we are so often focused on hitting the hail mary pass that we forget about the power of incrementalism. this is going to spend less money next year, that is not sufficient, that does not solve all the problems of this country, but it is a big win. the strongest argument against ...

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Eventually it will have to stop. when that happens, then there will be like a necessity a political necessity of going after everything, government spending on the discretionary side and the entitlement side and defense as well. they're going to have to do it because they'll run out of money. >> neil: we'll see. right now it does not look promises the way we're going. hope springs eternal. desperate measures and desperate times call for not so desperate grievances to address all of that. kevin hassett on all of that. i talked to sheila bear, the former fdic head that know as thing or two about...