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Arrested for disorderly conduct and a lesser charge of littering. >> were you able to confirm though that he was giving money to homeless people to be part of his protest? >> you know, we followed up with various shelters in the area and they did hear, you know, from the advocates that would come from the shelters that he was indeed doing this. >> okay. so through the course of what you worked on, did you talk to him specifically? did you -- did you find out what type of programming that he wanted discovery to hear from him? >> you know, i did. i did get to talk to mr. lee at length at his tri...

Hope that you can resolve these things as quickly as possible but sometimes these things can drag on for hours, for days and in some cases weeks. >> and in a situation like this, would negotiators ask to speak with some of the employees who are with him, some of the hostages, just to get their take, or is that something that is usually off limits? >> no. sometimes they will ask to speak to the hostages just to find out if they are in a good state of mind, if there's any requests that they may have for like food or medicine or medical ascension so, yeah, if the hostage-taker is willing to left ...

Overpopulation, and so it does not and is not limited to, you know, this save the planet alone kind of a global warming, environmental. >> right. >> some of his most passionate language in his list of demands has to do with what he sees as an overpopulation problem. he says, from one little small bit that i'll read from his website, the humans, question mark, the planet does not need humans, and he says at the end that these are the demands and says of lee, and, again, very passionate about his beliefs, but never taking i guess, i hope to anyone's imagination. to this point he was arrested bac...

With him that day at the protest when he was arrested so this man had a lot of money. >> agnes, when you did speak with him in court and he represented himself through trial what, did you find his demeanor to be like, and what did you find his personality to be like when speaking to you about the situation he found himself in? >> right. mr. lee believed he would win, but it was -- the man did not come from a lawyerly background. i don't think he knew what he was really getting himself into. he -- i believe the laurene asked him there whether he still wanted a public defender as the trial began...