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I was there when the debate over health care happened and technology was suppose to save us from a lot of this, remember? republicans promised it, too. it will make it more efficient and transparent. that didn't happen. >> i will tell you what is so shocking about technology. throughout the last several decades, for example, the utilization of hospitals has dropped because ofogy. now, you can get one of the morning for a gallbladder operation and you're out in the afternoon. used to be house delays for five to seven days. so, hospital utilization, right now from the occupancy rate in hospitals...

Decriminalizing the non-violent drug offenses? not only save a lot of money and clear out the jails but would protect the individual rights of americans. in my opinion, smoke a little o doobi if they want on the weekend no one's business. >> liberal on the panel said keep them locked up forever. >> am i the liberal? >> just kidding. >> it will save a lot of money. i saw the biggest private company in california has a, quote, 90% occupancy rate, mandatory. like a hotel. and this is clearly not a hotel, but to michelle's point, a great one about employment afterwards, and hillary clinton has spo...

That. how did they actually end up out there? >> some sort of internal exercise, not sanctioned by ford, but it was drawings of a ford car. very offensive. and those people who did that we're now told are gone. if you took a flight last year, chances are your plane was packed, right? a trade group airlines for america says that nation's biggest carriers posted an average occupancy rate of 82.8% in 2012. that's a technical term for packed. because it's the highest since 1945. airlines are being forced to operate more efficiently because of fuel prices and labor costs that are rising. that cause...

That. if they are guaranteed a 90% occupancy rate -- >> and we've got to see what is going on here. this is part of a bigger privatization movement, not just big bird, but people want to privatize social security. this is about a big eer role of government, but the states need to wake up, too. because the cost of incarcerating more and more people. they are spending 2.5 times more, that's the dumbest investment policy i can think of. >> and i want to give you the last word on this. if that is a bad way to spend our money, what are the alternatives to incarceration for young people? >> we can't...

Know the vast majority of the votes would go to president obama if they were able to be cast. >> i work on legislative issues with opening up opportunities for those involved in the criminal justice system. i'll never forget setting down with a senator. we were in the district of nine prisons, he took a look at the building and said, this is great but news are not my people. i have never had that response ever, but he was crystal clear with me. these are not my folks, meaning these are not republican votes, good luck. >> i'm going to lose the privatization issue because it is a big issue. peop...