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Tactics. that's something that defense officials told me is something they're actually going to be doing, you know, just using essentially a harassment campaign against an occupation force by the russians. that's the bottom card. and it's the main option that the ukrainians have to defend against a russian incursion. jose? >> matt bradley, thank you so much. and with me now from frankfort, germany, is ben hodges, now persian chair for european studies. it's a pleasure to see you. i understand that you were in kyiv just last week. you had an opportunity to meet with president zelensky. what's y...

Attack to relieve some of the pressure that's in the east and maybe get some of those forces to move away to make it easier for his limited attack. but still they are not the main effort forces he has in the east and south right now. when you analyze who the troops are, they're a hodge podge of unites and east and other parts of russia not a coherent main effort attacking force. they could cross the border and demonstrate the potential of something like that but unlikely to be used as an occupation force. that's the benefit of the analysis. >> dana: there is a lot of focus on the president's m...

Several days. this is phase one. we are formally in it. phase two would be air missiles, cruise missile strikes, artillery fire and tanks and mechanized units coming across the boarder. phase three would be a potential occupation. would russia actually have some large scale occupation force. that's one thing we don't really know yet. they've been calling up sop national guards or reservists but nobody in the area of the 100,000 to 200,000 people it would take to occupy ukraine. >> you just laid out what sounds like a pretty specific path. is the military establishment in this country confident...

He will just focus on that eastern half in the beginning. and when they go in, the assessment is that he will and circle some of these large cities. kyiv, odessa in the south, circle them, isolate them, and then they will move from there. he has a tremendous amount of personnel around the border right now. it is enough for not only for the initial invasion, but for an occupation force for sometime. >> and i want to show you a little bit on the map here of white courting was just talking about. right here in odessa, remember, russia has ships here. this is the river that korte was just talking ...