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And look for weight points and the airways, there is really, there aren't any. it as remote as you can get and still be on this planet. >> this is where experts believe the wreckage of flight 370 play lie. >> the analogy of what we have got out there at the moment. we are not searching for a needle in the hay stack. >> that was in march when this vessel "the ocean shield" set out in hopes of finding the plane and failed. >> they have probably limited it to a small number of haystacks. >> now australian transportation safety board is searching again with chief commissioner martin dolan in charg...

And still be on this planet. >> this is where experts believe the wreckage of flight 370 may lie. finding it, an immeasurable challenge. >> the analogy of what we've got out there at moment, we're not searching for a needle in a haystack. we're still trying to define where the haystack is. >> that was march, when this vessel the "ocean shield" set out in hopes of finding the plane and failed. >> we've probably limited it to a small number of haystacks. >> now the australian transportation safety board is searching again, with chief commissioner martin dolan in charge. >> we have very good tech...

Southern indian ocean. >> the southern indian ocean. thousands of miles away, where no one could likely have survived. family members were shocked. distraught and angry. there would be no rescues, no debris. now, a last hope remained. find the black boxes before they stop emitting pings. >> you're not in an ivory tower. you haven't got the luxury of time. you got pingers that may expire. so you've got to say, this is our best guess now. >> their best guess is a remote area more than twice the size of california. >> good morning. these are all the aircraft flying today. >> the australians take ...

Thought they heard were not from the plane? >> flatly, yes, that is what we're told. they essentially said look we had bluefin down there. and we know that that bluefin completed its last mission today, searching some 300 miles of as soon as floor. they say if the black boxes were there they would have picked them up. i said what is the sound, they would have detected it on four occasions. the answer is, they really do not know. they don't believe it was from the black boxes. but perhaps it could have been a sound from the ocean shield, the search itself. >> how confident would you be that you...

So i said, well, what was this sound then that was detected on four different occasions? the answer is, they really don't know but they do not believe it was from the black boxes. they said perhaps it could have been from ocean shield, the search itself. >> how confident would you be that you can just rule out the presence of black boxes? >> yeah, that's a great question, anderson. and i haven't seen any of the data yet so it is tough to answer that. but if -- you know the phoenix is very capable >> that's the group that is doing this. >> yeah, that is the group doing this. so if they're sayin...