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Thing to say. many people say it absolutely wasn't. and, of course, we have to question the president's judgment here in commenting on the trial and saying that, not ruling out a pardon. while the jury is deliberating. the idea the jury was not sequestered is fascinating in light of the judge's odd comment yesterday he did not realize how much attention this trial would get. that was a very bizarre comment that took a lot of people by surprise. because, of course, this is an extremely high-profile man. he worked for the trump campaign. the judge should have known this was going to draw a lot o...

So i think he will continue on his path unabated and determine what if any extent there were any laws violated and submit a report to congress or charge one or month individuals over and above those who have already been charged. >> above the four which is a lot already. you can feel the heat a little bit even though it is winter. thanks for being on our power panel. coming up, donald trump's odd comment today about a potential pardon for mike flynn. >> i don't want to talk about pardons for michael flynn yet. we'll see what happens. >> a special legal report for you tonight on why that deal...

And i think this issue whether we ought to sit down, talk to the north koreans about nuclear weapons or the weather is not today's issue right now. >> so before this tillerson popping up his head about talks, no preconditions and then, of course, the sort of the mini walk-back today, we were sitting on this odd comment from lindsey graham, perhaps, a future replacement to tillerson at the state department, might be a 70% chance of some sort of military action against north korea the next time they test something. do you get the sense if the north koreans test another nuclear weapon our respons...

I think that mattis and tillerson and mcmaster have all done a pretty good job of broadcasting a message that american policy is what it was -- paul: secretary of defense, state and national security. >> exactly. so that's a pretty powerful team, and they're all people trump appointed. paul: so the if you're an ally sitting in south korea or japan, you have to say, you know, we're going to roll with the odd comment and actually keep our eyes on the main policy? is that the way you have to approach this? >> that's what you have to do, but also you have to explain it to your public opinion -- pa...

Unsettling thing. i think that mattis and tillerson and mcmaster have all done a pretty good job of broadcasting a message that american policy is what it was -- paul: secretary of defense, state and national security. >> exactly. so that's a pretty powerful team, and they're all people trump appointed. paul: so the if you're an ally sitting in south korea or japan, you have to say, you know, we're going to roll with the odd comment and actually keep our eyes on the main policy? is that the way you have to approach this? >> that's what you have to do, but also you have to explain it to your pu...