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Not lying to you. that even if -- you're hearing well, it may be a crack pot idea, but at least they're serious about it. >> or they're representing their own establishment. if they are anti-anti, it's against the two parties, which should make democrats and republicans very nervous. >> that is a good point pause the people who are amused by this rhetoric are the people that are going to go out and vote in primaries. people who think that if you think the country is going down the toilet and it's going to the dogs and trade has ruined everything and immigration, you are the type of person that...

Chuck, h holds cards now? >> reporter: we are looking a the a group of republican senators ready to potentially deal with harry reid. that's what this could come down to there are people publicly today that came out for cutting a deal. including john thune, lisa be ray corker. i didn't even mention the main republicanes who people assume would be available for potential cross-over appeal. i can tell you this right new, harry reid is dangling a lot of things to try to attract republicans. few more cuts up front. i promise of a vote on the balance budget amendment. not linking passage to the nex...

Chuck, h holds cards now? >> reporter: we are looking a the a group of republican senators ready to potentially deal with harry reid. that's what this could come down to there are people publicly today that came out for cutting a deal. including john thune, lisa be ray corker. i didn't even mention the main republicanes who people assume would be available for potential cross-over appeal. i can tell you this right new, harry reid is dangling a lot of things to try to attract republicans. few more cuts up front. i promise of a vote on the balance budget amendment. not linking passage to the nex...

In 10 years in 15 years is a good thing for the president to talk about and when he started talking about taking care of senior citizens, for example, and what entitlements actually do rather than the sort of word of entitlements, i think he scores points, that's -- that's good argument for him. >> howard, quickly. >> i think, chris, he is going to focus on values. >> what gene said. >> as gene was implying. in the past, republicans were working on value, now the president is going to talk about values. >> because he has to because he can't talk about conditions yet. >> kent talk about the nu...