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Stations. and people are doing that. look, we had a congressman -- an attempted assassination of a congressman on a baseball field, and that shooter had a list in his pocket of other republicans that he was going to go after. it is a scarey time right now. sara sanders has been run out of restaurants. there is a list of things going on. now you have witches placing a hex on brett kavanaugh. you have the republican party in new york city being vandalized. so it is concerning. this type of behavior is going on, and it is concerning to all americans out there. as i said to you in the last segment...

Throughout the whole arab world, except in syria, attack at the time, libya at the time when they were murdering journalists. that was par for the course and every president of the united states kept a lid on that, but they spoke up about it. that's what's uniquely different here. donald trump is not like every other president of the united states. he is very, very clearly seen as on their side. he said he does not care about what their internal policies are and does not care about human rights so how long as it doesn't bother us. now we have the possible murder of a washington post columnist ...

>> well, he did take quite a bit of time before he said anything about it. and then he said, look, we're not going to stop selling weapons from saudi arabia because they will buy it from the chinese and russians. we know they are doing a lot of business with the trumps. we know at trump tower. we know in the trump hotel in washington. >> and -- >> he has indicated what many people think, that americans get rich off saudis and saudis get rich off americans and hence maybe they don't get the treatment they should because of what has been alleged. >> but the thing about it is it's not going to be...

People post those all the time. that doesn't mean he's going out advocating for the murder of journalists. that's absurd. >> let me ask you this, malcolm. there is a secondary problem here. that is while the president of the united states or americans can go around the world criticizing human rights abuses and oppressed freedom abuses, this becomes a trickier problem with saudi arabia, with whom this administration is uniquely cozy. administrations for the last couple decades have been cozy with them. >> well, we generally don't. that's because we, sort of, turned a blind eye on how they are b...

Program gives them. don't take my word for it. just listen to the folks who attended ryan's speech today. >> i worked for that. i paid into all these programs, the medicare and that. they're not entitlement. and why is it okay for oil companies to have entitlements that they're getting? >> well, i didn't find ryan sincere at all. >> frankly, a lot of them, people around me were booing, and i think they get the feeling that these folks will say anything just to get elected. >> hey, how's that winning argument going? joining me now is e.j. dion, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc c...