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Austin and his counterparts in europe. so that fact makes the interpersonal relationships, the diplomatic relationships that this minister of defense has had -- it makes it a bit of a question, and i think it's a risky move for the ukrainians to make at this point in time. i think the calculation was that because there's a whiff of corruption around the ministry of defense because of a food procurement scandal, that zelenskyy wanted to clean house and make sure that from a european union perspective, that he appeared as squeaky clean as possible. that of course also plays well here with the re...

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It, i know there's been a lot of conversation and a lot of debate about when you should shoot down this balloon or take it out. remember, there's at least three different considerations that the military and the intel officials are going through. the first one, of course, is what the intelligence vulnerabilities are, what kind of information that balloon is collecting about nuclear sites, about defense sites, and so forth. the second one is what is the counterintelligence value of observing what that thing is doing? there is very likely a very important counterintelligence value to the united ...

We're told is the path. it swooped down from canada, flying over the northern, central, and eastern parts of the country, and that it loitered. it hung out, in the words of a senior defense official, for a longer period of time. of course we can't forget the very sensitive political moment we're in right now. tensions with china. this balloon spotted and then shot down right as secretary of state antony blinken was due to travel to beijing for an important meeting. >> alex marquardt, thank you very much. joining me now, democratic congressman joaquin castro of texas. he sits on the house intel...

That we can be incredibly proud of. i think he's going to talk about the economy, about where we are now. but i hope that he'll talk about things like immigration and finally getting some big issues done that have been lingering with the congress and the administration for quite a while. you know, of course i think he's probably going to have to address the issues or some of the ways that republicans are waging culture wars in the country, like banning books in florida and so forth. all of these things because they have no plan for governing. they have no substantive plan for the country, so t...