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A muslim ban? i think you'll have the critics still be critics in the republican party. >> that's one of the reasons it was -- blocked in the courts. >> in that they were continuing to assert that the original travel ban was perfectly legal. >> they will drop that fight and say that fight is now moot. they have travel ban number two. the attorney general saying this is legal. you have the secretary of homeland security saying essentially sorry. this time we're going to brief you and take our time. it's not implemented until march 16th. this is done in a careful way. we know if there had not be...

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Kind of like saying we're going to raise the legal limit for blood alcohol, thinking we're going to control drunk driving. we're drunk up there in terms of spending money. and we can keep commitments, but we can't keep commitments if we continue to spend money on things that we shouldn't be spending money on. >> senator coburn, quick follow-up. how much of a reckoning for the republican party has been experienced this week because of going up against the debt default limit and the shutdown? >> well, i think the fight on obama care, the affordable care act, took us off message. the large percen...

Mitt romney. without message, money doesn't do you any good. >> the message today, of course, is supposed to be the flat tax. he did that interview with john harwood. we are going to move on to john for the rest of rick perry. thank you very much, chris. see you later. rick perry hoping that his flat tax can unflatten his sinking poll numbers. speaking to nbc cnbc's chief washington correspondent, john harwood, the governor brushed off concerns that the option the flat tax is a boon for the rich. >> it gives a tax cut across the board. >> for those at the top, it is hundreds of thousands, ma...