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Concealed weapon and shot back. >> bill: walgreen's says you can't have it in the first place. >> that's against their policy. >> bill: you have a legitimate point, that the guy disobeyed the rules before. he knew anything was going to happen. >> yes. jeremy hoven disobeyed the rules, violated the policy that he signed off on. absolutely. >> bill: that's beyond a reasonable doubt. >> beyond a reasonable doubt. here is the thing, in my many conversations with walgreen's, all of them down the ladder over this last week, i kept saying, wait a second. yes, he violated the policy. can't you make an...

it either. kate baldwin looks ahead. >> reporter: if it does pass in the house, it has the potential of hitting a huge road block as soon as it gets to the senate. at the same time, that house speaker john boehner's office was putting out this release, the good news about the cost estimate, senate democrats released a letter at almost the same time with 53 signatures on it saying they don't support the plan in the senate and really essentially making clear that it cannot pass. so while all eyes are still on the house to see what happens with john boehner's plan in the house, it has s...

The state, it's signed off on. you know, there's plenty of evidence that he is. how can you say that there's not? >> a certificate of live birth is different than a long form birth certificate. i think that's what is intended by the documentation process. >> for better or worse, many people don't believe he's a u.s. citizen. they believe he has loyalties, divided loyalties. i suppose you could say. >> those people are wrong. he is a u.s. citizen. >> you're telling me that he's wrong. i never investigated that, if he is, then he has nothing to fear. >> but i mean, the information is out there. ...

It's irrelevant to me. >> what do you mean you're not qualified to say whether he is or not? >> well, there's been no proof offered. and as far as belief, it really doesn't matter what i believe. >> but how can you say there's been no proof offered? there's a certificate of live birth which was shown by his campaign in 2008 which has, you know, the seal of -- the raised seal of the state, it's signed off on. you know, there's plenty of evidence that he is. how can you say that there's not? >> well, a certificate of live birth is different than a long-form birth certificate. and i think that th...

It's irrelevant to me. >> what do you mean you're not qualified to say whether he is or not? >> there's been no proof offered, and as far as belief, it doesn't matter what i believe. >> how can you say there's been no proof offered? there's a certificate of live birth, shown by his campaign in 2008, which has, you know, the seal of -- the raised seal of the state, it's signed off on. you know, there's plenty of evidence that he is. how can you say that there's not? >> a certificate of live birth is different than a long form birth certificate. i think that's what is intended by the documentati...