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Quite another to have a 12-year-old jump barricades and be arrested. how do you respond to those who say this is not good parenting? >> i would remind them if they are really upset about what goz with offspring and their mothers, what's going on with seaworld and really that seaworld's whales are separated, the young from the mothers and forced to perform in small tanks. while any discomfort or situation that rose has been involved in is relatively brief, what these whales are dealing with with long-term confinement and cruelty is their life. >> so we are crystal clear, you have no problem wit...

Save all the whales if, any of them. ashleigh? >> john zarrella for us, thank you very much for that. joining us now with his expertise also featured in the movie "blackfish" airing on cnn. explain why any step forward the rescuers make in herding the whales in deeper just met to returning back to the scene where they could die? >> well i think it's important to understand that these are highly bonded. in fact, bonded for life. there's no dispersal from the family. offspring of both genders, male and female, stay with their mothers their entire lives. so it's really one, big extended family ...

You know what, you are right. >> our audience is still up. >> right now, 45% of my audience is taking apart their toaster. >> i put toast in and nothing came out. it has to be in there somewhere. >> by the way, i am complementing you -- come pli -- complimenting you guys. being a big celebrity like me, let's face it, i don't want to have kids. i don't want to be let down by my off spring. if i am going to have a kid it has to be a daughter and she has to be a veterinarian, that's it. >> so you don't want to be let down? >> yes. >> so just adopt a kid and then if they let you down you can say t...

Impact your world. >> it is a day of celebration at a village in cambodia. oscar-winning actress susan sarandon and her daughter have come to watch one of heffer international's core programs in action. >> heffer international figured out a very efficient way to spend your money by having you sponsor an animal for a family that they then help for a year to make sure that they understand how to nurture that animal and when that animal has offspring, they pass that on. the feeling of pride and satisfaction at being able to pass on something is valuable as that gift to another person is as import...

>> i want to bring in human behavior expert wendy walsh to talk about this and bring back amy holmes with theblaze.com. this is a topic amy and i had as we were at an event earlier this week. wendy, what do you make of the reaction to his son's death? >> it's interesting, of course he's going through trauma. he just discovered he had a son. this death, you know, is not unknown in the history of our species, don. you know, we gather for hundreds of thousands of years. men were needed for protection of their offspring. males, the first thing they do is try to kill the infants and toddlers to hav...