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About the effect of sanctuary policies on crime. you and a lot of others have made the case, look, if we crack down on illegals, they aren't c going to report crimes to police. now we know that that didn't happen and that in phoenix crime went down when the city stopped ignoring federal law. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, i don't advocate for illegals, i call people people. they are human beings. they are not illegal aliens or illegal human beings. >> tucker: i'm saying that they are in the country illegally. >> they are not legal aliens. >> tucker: call them what you want, we ar...

You're sending the message, if you don't like federal law, ignore it. >> if somebody commits a crime, they should be arrested. no doubt about it. donald trump should be on arrested for the crimes he has committed, for example. he shouldn't get a pass. so i'm saying -- >> tucker: you're saying you want the law to be different, why not try to change it? how about this. what if alabama decided, you know what, we are sick of enforcing federal voting rights law. would you say --fo >> we've seen that in alabama.t we've seen that in alabama. the freedom riders. a lot of those things really haven't ch...

>> tucker: a homeless man has gone free in new york after a jury decided that he acted in self-defense when he shoved a drunk man in front of a subway train. this all began in 2012. he moved here from africa, shoved a man -- also an2. immigrant, but watch as a train arrived and crushed him to death, then walked off as ifd nothing had happened it went upstairs and began begging again.n. after being arrested, davis claimed he was acting in self-defense from the menace of the much smaller man. the jury apparently believed him.m. they acquitted davis yesterday. jonathan rosenberg man wrote a piece...

Excellent manners. noticeably gracious manners. i've always noticed that. >> and he is funny as heck. when he gets with a couple buddies and they are cutting up and telling stories, he's a good guy. >> tucker: governor palin, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: there was other news tonight. that's why we are here live, and interview in "the new york times," president trump launched into an unexpected attack with attorney general jeff sessions. he said "he was going to recuse himself, he should've told me before i took the job and i would have picked somebody else." that will be ...

>> tucker: in the debate over sanctuary cities, and lot of the argument has centered on the question of crime. do sanctuary cities encourage locals to cooperate with the police or do they hold the deportation of dangerous illegal aliens. that has been the argument. sunlight has been shed on it. one from the university of california riverside found no statistically significant gap in increments between sanctuary cities and law-abiding city of phoenix, the study found that crime fell substantially after phoenix repealed its sanctuary city policies nine years ago. enrique morones is the founder o...