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Away. they're a little slow to come around. >> tucker: kind of weird since i remember, at least a year ago and the leadership was saying we want to build a wall and we want to defund planned parenthood. you provide a solution to both of those things simultaneously and yet they aren't congratulating you, aren't buying you a beer?d >> you think that they would say "why didn't i think of that, let's do that right away." another thing on this is that the planned parenthood proposal, if we could ever get this done, is only for a single year instead of a perpetuity which is what i prefer. but it's w...

At the very least, it was negligent homicide. i think in defense law, it's very important that defense attorneys for their own credibility, when they are not on the job, say this is a case of guilt. a, the more we understand guilt, the more we understand how to defend people who are innocent. we can't do our jobs effectively as criminal defense lawyers if we don't look at the cases and say "this person was guilty. this person -- " >> tucker: that's a smart rule to live by. jonathan, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: a woman in saudi arabia narrowly avoided punishment for the grave...

His tenacity and thick skin, would you have to have at the level he serves. obviously he is a fighter and if i were going to war, i would want him leading the charge. >> tucker: have you talked to him recently? >> the last time i spoke with him relatively recently, bless his heart. he continues to kind of apologized when i speak with him. we have a good laugh about what the two of us went through together and still go through together and what our families go through in the public eye. i told him this last go-round, enough of the apologies. i will forever be grateful for the opportunity he pro...

Study or one case and use that, as you often do, but let's look at the real numbers. let's look at the overall situation, not only a few cases. >> tucker: just for those at home watching and maybe you don't have time, you're not an expert on this, let me say there are no studies of the kind you are referring to. they don't exist. >> the cato institute, the pew institute. >> tucker: that's not true. cities with the same tory policies and those without, and their crime rates. this is the only one i've ever seen. i have looked into it. are you saying that the study is wrong? and on the basis of w...

Because he is unqualified and look at the mess he's making across the country. what i'm saying is we should have humane policies. if you want to talk about law enforcement, talk to law enforcement across the country. get their feedback. see what they think. they are opposed to a lot of these policies, the wall. >> tucker: and who knows whether political pressure, noto wanting extra work, but it's not relevant to the question. i'm confronting you with social science that shows that sanctuary city policies do not make cities safer. i want you to acknowledge that science is real and that you are ...