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Haters bring out. the thing that they don't mention is that the newspaper that reported that ultimately retracted that story. not a shred of proof. >> i'm referencing the stiff penalties the nfl put forward on the patriots. i believe they docked them draft picks and had a huge fine which was the biggest at that point. when the jets reported eric mangini and the jets reported that's what belichick did. >> but it had nothing to do with super bowl seasons. >> it's a culture of deceit that has come to fruition. >> i'm going to take issue with something you said, steve. i'm not a patriots hater. i'...