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Soviet tactics would expect that this is preparatory for a large offensive operation. we don't know how far the russians would want to push the separatists in their own forces but this is something that could well be a second phase, a much tougher phase for the ukrainians. and if that's the case, it's going to get bloodier and there are going to be more civilians suffering as a result. >> secretary austin today denied the claims from the foreign minister from russia, sergey lavrov that this is a proxy war for nato with the flooding in of military aide, what's your take on that proxy war claim?...

Of this new russian offensive operation. that southward movement from kharkiv through and to the city of izium, that's expected to be up with of the key lines of advance in and when russia makes the move and tries to expand its control over that eastern region. >> phil black, we appreciate all of it. thank you so much. really appreciate the report there. now, british prime minister boris johnson brought encouragement and a promise of more military assistance to ukraine. >> johnson made a surprise trip to the capital, kyiv, where he met with president volodymyr zelenskyy. cnn correspondent ni...

Some point in time, will reveal what he's thinking. but again, i'm not sure that he's made final decisions on what he's going to do yet. >> and barbara, let me first say that as the secretary said up front, right now we don't think final decisions have been made to conduct any sort of offensive operation into ukraine by the russians. and we firmly believe there's still room for diplomatic outcome here. having said that, given the type of forces that are arrayed, the ground maneuver forces, artillery, ballistic missiles, air forces, all of it packaged together, if that was unleashed on ukraine,...

Will reveal what he's thinking, but again, i'm not sure that he's made final decisions on what he's going to do yet, so -- >> and barbara, let me first say that as the secretary said up front, we don't think final decisions have been made to conduct any sort of offensive operation into ukraine by the russians, and we firmly believe there is still room for diplomatic outcome here. having said that, given the type of forces that are arrayed, the ground maneuver forces, artillery, ballistic missiles, the air forces, all packaged together, if it was unleashed on ukraine it would be significant, ve...

Some point in time will reveal what he's thinking but again, oum not sure he's made final decisions on what he's going to do yet. >> and let me first say as the secretary said up front, right now we don't think final decisions have been made to conduct any sort of offensive operation into ukraine by the russians and we firmly believe there's room for a diplomatic outcome here. given the type of forces, the ground maneuver, the artillery, ballistic missile, the air forces, all of it packaged together, if it was unleashed on ukraine, it would be significant, very significant. and it would result...