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Know of anywhere where they're actually offered. so if you want to buy insurance, to cover the unexpected situation you would terminate a pregnancy for any reason, you're probably out of luck. now think for a minute about what the republican party is saying here. they are making it clear, they are quite willing to intervene in a private health insurance market, not to make sure people have basic package of care, not to control spiraling health care costs, not even to make sure that poor people are getting covered. no, they will intervene in the market in order to stop insurance companies from ...

That poor people are getting covered. no, they will intervene in the market in order to stop insurance companies from offering coverage for illegal, constitutionally protected medical procedure. a party that does that is a party that is committing political suicide. and if you think that is hyperbole or doubt that, consider this. even the right-wing governor of michigan, republican rick schneider, did not want his party to pass this into law. he passed a similar measure last year, saying, i don't believe it is appropriate to tell a woman who becomes pregnant due to a rape, that she needs to se...

What we're seeing this year is a lot of businesses have already stopped hiring because of these laws and the implementation of these laws. it's unlikely they'll go out and hire tomorrow because they're only put off a year. they listened to the people of america, they would say listen, let's go back to the drawing board, or in this particular instance, they would have said let's not do it at all. >> brian: yeah. and by the way, it's going to hurt us. big company, corporations like ours offer health insurance. that's okay in most situations, although they might decide to take the penalty, $2,000...

Hard-working middle class families the security of affordable health coverage and care they deserve. can president obama go out to places like iowa, and ohio, and colorado and sell this message and use it against you? >> look, the president has to completely embrace the totality of the act that he passed, a massive tax hike that has done what? it was promised that it would bring costs down. it hasn't brought costs down. people were promised that they would keep the doctors that they had. they're not able to. you see more and more folks and more and more employers are moving away from offering ...

Well, we as a small business are in such a pool that we cannot spread these costs around. one of our employees had cardiac bypass surgery about eight years ago. well, the next year when the insurance company got these legitimate medical bills, our premiums went out the roof the next year. so to keep offering coverage to our employees, we had to do two things. first of all, we had to raise our deductibles from $250 to $3,000 for an individual. and secondly, we used to pay 100% of the premiums for our employees. but in order to continue to have coverage, we now require the employees to pay up to...