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Idea maybe to have vetted whoever they were meeting with. i think the russian objective here was, one, to explore to see if there was interest in having such a discussion on offering up, of course, dirt on hillary clinton. and somehow, you know, at least create the optic or the image of at least ostensibly plausible deniability. this is traditional trade craft soviet approach, to soft approach. and if possible, to co-opt. >> that is the former director of national intelligence, congressman. what is your reaction to an assessment like that of trump tower meeting? >> it is very alarming.

It would basically provide a very serious way to provide coverage. it would save $1.5 trillion over ten years, compared to obamacare. it would cut premiums by anywhere from 2% to 11% compared to obamacare, and it would also cover people with pre-existing conditions but in a very different way. it would say that you can be covered and we won't raise your premiums at all, so long as you maintain continuous coverage. obamacare works by encouraging people to buy coverage with the individual mandate, a fine if you don't purchase it. so, those are some of the highlights. >> you know, this comes at a...

Him. so defend this guy. is it by your likes, you've always be a journalist. never on the inside. >> i'm for more information. in fact, i'm working with msnbc.com with a request to the state of alaska for all sarah palin's e-mails. it's supposed to come out in the spring. the interesting thing is he says he has 60,000 e-mails back and forth with sarah palin. the state of alaska tells us there are 26,000 pages. >> this stuff he's offering up, do we know, they keep saying in the news stories, according to him. according to him. >> we don't know for sure. >> the wrinkle in the is the

>> it should be. it's not always. >> i generally don't like rats. i observe the rule that you have a confidential relationship with him. so defend this guy. is it by your likes, you've always be a journalist. never on the inside. >> i'm for more information. in fact, i'm working with msnbc.com with a request to the state of alaska for all sarah palin's e-mails. it's supposed to come out in the spring. the interesting thing is he says he has 60,000 e-mails back and forth with sarah palin. the state of alaska tells us there are 26,000 pages. >> this stuff he's offering up,