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President clinton twice and fisk, the predecessor of the starr, interviewed him once. there were three interviews by the special counsel of clinton. there is not an absence of precedent for doing it that way as well. >> michael zeldin, appreciate your time. plfrt your time. i want to bring in the panel. david gergen, tara setmayer and stephen moore. david, i mean, how much room do you think the president's team really does have to negotiate? i mean, he could be subpoenaed, but -- >> i think they have some room to negotiate, but ultimately they're going to be forced maybe far more than they wan...

President we want to do a discreet interview with you on that topic and we reserve to right to come back and talk to you about other topics. or they could do it in sort of one fell swoop at the end for all topics. if he were interviewed tomorrow, it wouldn't necessarily tell us the investigation is in its last leg because we don't know what the subject of that inquiry could be. >> wouldn't it hard to get him to come back multiple times? wouldn't it be easier to do it at once? >> sure it would be, and it would be deferential at the office of the president to do it at one point in tibut is not r...

Sequestration. so i'm scratching my head to my republican colleagues. why are you now wanting to have this debate about adding you know, spending $5 trillion when we haven't even had this discussion about the budget caps on sequestration and on the supplemental that is going to be in the hundreds of billions of dollars? sow me these things all go together. o'wou i would be trying to leverage the discussion into what is good fisk's policy and what is good stimulus and i don't think, to your last interview with my colleague, he and some of the republicans keep touting this 3% growth issue, and i...

Way to sap the debt ceiling is an unpopular vote to raise but have to raise it. harvey is something everyone wants to vote for. >> you made a logical argument. this happens to be washington, d.c., though. you can ask the former speaker john boehner and current speaker paul ryan. the debt creeling in recent years became quicksand. quagmire for republicans and fisk's conservatives ran on it. people rolled their eyes. take it here, cut it here. we have to do this. a quagmire. the question is, is the bipartisanship at least for the first installment of harvey enough to get through there? >> where ...

And called it a vast right-wing conspiracy and we're seeing some signs of that with regard to this administration, but i do think it's important to take more of the cobb approach to this and let's fully comply and let them do their job. >> there is a big difference. i need to defend myself and my colleagues. when whitewater first had a special counsel, the counsel was appointed just like mr. mueller by the attorney general and it was a guy named robert fisk, a registered republican but a career prosecutor. we never criticized mr. fisk. he was pursing this and then a three-judge panel led by a ...