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They want to preserve this freedom that they know to protect themselves and it would take away from the honest people. the average people. by gosh, the nra is not going to let that happen. >> sean: wayne, the nra gets a bad rap, and i am a proud member. it's just the facts. how many people a year do you teach gun security and safety to?e how many people a year have y protected the lives of loved ones, because they had the ability to defend themselves with a weapon? >> that's exactly right, sean. we teach millions of people and spend millions of dollars every year teaching people safety and res...

Reciprocity. they want to preserve this freedom that they know to protect themselves and it would take away from the honest people. the average people. by gosh, the nra is not going to let that happen. >> sean: wayne, the nra gets a bad rap and i am a proud member. it's just the facts. how many people a year did you teach gun security and safety to? how many people a year have protected the lives of loved ones because they had the ability to defend themselves with a weapon? >> that's exactly right, sean. we teach millions of people and spend millions of dollars every year teaching people safet...

A bill out of senate was supposed to move this forward. even that couldn't get past. >> the sheet ee ee eer -- shoot, his mother had the guns legally. gun security, access, is a big issue for people. you almost never hear someone getting prosecuting for someone else getting their guns and committing a crime. >> herein lies the issue. >> these mass shootings will not be a catalyst for change. you have to have somebody who thinks smartly about where the real pockets of necessity are when it comes to gun violence. they're there. >> the liability, clinton is expected to talk about today, that gets...

The background checks need to be better. even the guns -- the n.r.a. felt that way also. you need to somehow know if someone is mentally ill. you need to know and flag it. >> that is whats n.r.a. -- that is what the n.r.a. was saying to the vice president. we have plenty of gun laws in the country, mr. vice president. are they being enforced? no. what about criminals? criminals and crazy people. look at what happened in sandy hook. those guns were bought by mrs. lanza legally. they were stolen. how do you ever stop that? that's one of the other reasons the n.r.a. suggests once again we tpwhaoe...

>>eric: is this the future of gun security? it's a high-tech revolving door. it's a security system all in one trying to get in to keeping guys with guns from getting into malls and schools and theaters. >>steve: that company's managing director joins us. we saw a little thing you put together, computer graphic. tell us how it would work. explain it to us how it's working. >> the thing to notice about it is you can see into the mechanism because we've taken the covers off for the animation. these will be covered so that weapons cannot be passed between two attackers. that's an important thing....