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Distillates are also in good shape. so why these prices are staying up is, i think, personally really a matter of decision making on the part of the oil refiners. alisyn: let's talk about iran, and if they decide somehow to close the strait of hormuz, apparently one-fifth of the world's oil goes through there every day. is there any way for the u.s. to pivot and get more of it imports from, say, canada so that we're not as vulnerable? >> first of all, we're not vulnerable to iran at all. alisyn: even in the strait of hormuz? >> and not to that 20% of oil that moves through the strait of hormuz...

>> of course. be that's not what this is about. we're not there. by the way, you can only release the maximum amount of 4 million -- martha: that's a madd maxx scenario. >> there are one billion barrels held by oil refiners. going forward, we need to get off foreign sources of oil. martha: well put, as always. good to see you. eric coming up on "follow the money" on the business channel. check that out. there is a growing number of republicans and democrats that agree that president obama debt speech was a strong challenge to republicans. will it help us or hurt us? alan colmes has thoughts on...

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