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Experience was about 18, 1989 or '90. known as strategic air command in omaha, nebraska. president bush came to visit and it was the first time a president had visited sack headquarters which controls the nuclear arsenal in 13 years, we went through repeated dress rehearsals of exactly what was going to be said and done, and how president bush would move and what the schedule would be, and our commander the four star had this down to a smoothly oiled machine, or so he thought.

I was chief intelligence for known as strategic air command in omaha, nebraska. president bush came to visit and it was the first time a president had visited s.a.c. headquarters which controls the nuclear arsenal in 13 years, we went through repeated dress rehearsals of exactly what was going to be said and done, and how president bush would move and what the schedule would be, and our commander the four star had this down to a smoothly oiled machine, or so he thought. typically, as happens in a

Boondoggle. maybe if you had someone with more confidence in the system to provide this sort of health care that is shulkin is saying is the better approach to management, you might have a better option. about you we don't know. that's the point. we don't have any sort of resume on jackson's part as to how he runs massive organizations because he hasn't done it before. >> look at the sheer tonnage of turnover. in march alone, national security adviser, national economic adviser, transportation secretary, communications director, go on and on. this is not a well-oiled machine. >> look, the v.a....

Respond takes away from everything else. >> it's not just steve bannon in the book. >> it's a mosaic that's true. the gary cohen thing, he obviously didn't write that e-mail. it's written as these are thoughts attributed to gary cohen and they're elements of the thoughts portrayed in there. gary doesn't think the president reads very much, not engaged on policy, ring true. things a lot of people in the west wing -- the fact he tapped out an e-mail to lloyd myfind, of course not. >> when the president says this is run like a tight ship or a fine well-oiled machine, the best of the best people. ...

They said they were delayed because the servicemember had been involved in multiple casualties incident. is that a valid excuse? does that complicate things? >> it makes it a volume issue, perhaps, don, to put is in a very crass way. but i would say, no, you have a situation where you know that something has happened. you should have procedures in place to handle it. the department of defense has procedures. each of the services have procedures to deal with this. even down at the unit level they have procedures. so everything should really be running like a smoothly oiled machine at this point...