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>> the only way they will apologize, tucker, is if the press presses them on that. you made this comment. you read back the comment. now we have learned and, again, we don't know but let's say we do learn, what do you have to say now? you know that's not going to happen. and, look, it's that theme that we talked about over and over again. all trump stories, almost all come from a foundation of guilty. whether that's yes, trump must have collusion with the russians therefore is he guilty. the coming must have attacked the native american. therefore is he guilty. when you come from that foundati...

It's down right ugly. and proof that some on the right are just chomping at the bit to provide these ugly smearing. joining me now ojoe madison and joe con any son. thank you both for being here. >> i can understand why people disagree with the president's poll six but suggesting he's a muslim and sympathizing with terrorists, isn't something out of bounds? >> not anymore, rev. i mean, this has been a theme they've pursued with this president almost from bet gining. the secret muslim. do you remember the madrasa he supposedly went to. exposed it as just a regular school. and they left that -- ...