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Remember the primary interest is stability on the peninsula. if they start to understand that north korea is destabilizing to the region they may be willing to coordinate with us in deterring north korea from aggressing. general dunford's veft to beijing in the north of china this month -- or earlier in august was a good sign that this coordination could occur. that's something we need to explore. we can't get there if we are still going for broke on denuclearization. >> all right. adam joining us there. we appreciate it. thank you for the insight and analysis. it's absolutely been fascinating...

Proceed unless north korea expresses the willingness or takes action to freeze its nuclear program and ultimately denuclearize. is that a fool's errand? >> i think denuclearization is an important long-term goal. >> is it realistic? >> i think we should think of it as a long-term goal, not as a short-term solution. the short-term priorities are in deterrence and defense, strengthening american alliances. if they focused too much on denuclearization they are starting to overlook the near-term imperatives. the other important thing that happened is talks could stand a reasonable chance of promot...

What is your expectation in terms of a response from beijing in light of this possible sixth nuclear test and after the sanctions passed by the u.n. that china signed on to enforce vigorously. >> china does sign on to a new u.n. sanction when there is a missile test, especially a nuclear test. we can expect they will reconvene the council and push for a tough new resolution. we should be skeptical of whether or not that economic pressure forces the north korean regime to behave in ways that we want. whether it has the effects we desire or whether it's just a way of looking tough for the intern...

Members of his military as he visited the glass encased coffins of his grandfather and his father to pay what the north koreans said was the humblest of respects. meantime, in south korea, people got up, had breakfast and went to work and opened up the newspaper. it wasn't kim jong-un on the cover, no, it was psy and the release of his new single. the media here came under a little criticism because of the way that they have described these lavish celebrations in north korea at a time when so many people there are hungry. the north koreans lashed out at them saying that it was not at all the k...

Them saying it was not at all the type of thing that they should be saying on a day like this. meantime there still is some focus on mr. kerry's trip here. it is thought to have been a very positive trip. and especially some of the comments that he made in japan. >> we need to make it clear that they have to move towards the denuclearization, they need to stop the threat. they need to stop the missile test, stop the nuclear tests. and we're prepared to come to the table under the meeting of the obligations. >> reporter: kerry's trip is thought to have really turned down the temperature here on...