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It's time for testimony. but you have to get underlying documents as well. are there any documents that shed light on what went on in this meeting, including the waves records, which is the records of who was going in and out of the white house on february 14th -- >> they've said they don't want to share those records. >> just let me add one point on the bind that comey is in. comey, ironically they end up being forced to be on trump's site in this scenario because he's going to have to come in and say, well, if i thought the president was asking me to obstruct justice, i would have either res...

Mistake. this has happened before, believe me, inadvertent disclosures, but not a deliberate leak to a national media outlet, so the whole world and isis can sit in their armchairs and read about it in the newspaper. >> the argument here that is made, and, look, leaking is criminal, but leaking is what happens, it happens to democrats, it happens to republicans. it is the only reason that watergate was even able to be expose was leaking. so everyone who wants to come out and say it's horrible, it's been very important in american history. is in a process for that? >> this was the president bei...

Has been no effort to impede the investigation to date. which i took broader than the dismissal of mr. comey. >> we don't know what the relationship was between mccabe and comey and where there was discussion about what the president said to him. maybe he didn't feel comfortable enough to talk to mccabe about it. >> and one of the -- >> that might be the indication. >> yeah. >> one of the reasons why comey might not have said anything to mccabe or not people is that he wanted to protect the bureau from this kind of interference. if he doesn't tell anyone that trump is trying to end the investi...

Goal in this whole process was protect the bureau. if he didn't tell anyone that the president tried to shut down the investigation and the investigation proceeded, he had protected the bureau. >> one other thing -- there's one other thing we haven't even discussed that i think goes against the president very strongly. you remember when flynn's lawyer started saying my client has a story to tell but he needs immunity. >> yes. >> the president came out publicly and said he should seek imcan menuity. why would the president be saying that flynn should seek immunity now that the president acknowl...

Director testifies, because he believes he will be subpoenaed. these documents will be subpoenaed. he wants to testify. or tell his story, he wants to come out and tell it. so we're going to hear it. it is going to be he said/she said, ambassador. >> talk about testifying in a criminal proceeding, then somebody has to start one up. they haven't done that as far as i can tell. they don't have one going. the situation today, it's as if a bunch of kids on a playground, somebody catches the ball and then drops it and somebody else says, hey, you're out, infield fly rule, and the guy who drops it, ...