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The president said today in the press conference, he leaned very far into the concept of vetoing that bill. >> he didn't say he would, he just said this is canadian oil. i don't know if he appreciated how much he's angering the canadians, american's number one ally. why wouldn't he want to help the canadians? because that would be a significant benefit for the closest ally the united states has. >> he's much more focused on u.s. domestic issues than our relations with canada. but i think the other thing that i gleaned from what the president said, the "yeah, but" on keystone was talking about ...

Our southern border because we need to know who's here because they are going to come here eventually. >> well, it only makes sense. let me go back to a couple of those things. energy independence. we can't even get this administration to make a decision on keystone that's been pending for years. there have been multiple studies. what makes you think there will be any motivation, or will there be any motivation by this administration to tap into our own reserves so we're not so dependent on foreign oil? >> the problem is this administration has made a decision to not make a decision. they don'...

If i'm marty o'malley, i am running for president. >> the reason these progressive groups want to race is because of these issues. they can't get her to say anything about keystone, they can't get her to say a lot right now about immigration. i think she will lean in more on immigration than she would on keystone. keystone, she originally approved her state department was ready provisionally. >> they need someone to the left. >> without a candidate, they don't have it. >> it's hard if you don't have somebody on the road holding her accountable, demanding she speak on x, y, see issue. but we ne...

Showing that wasn't aired. for example, on keystone, i think he kind of escaped on that because he said -- you said i assume you are going to prove it and he gave you the stuff about well it's got to be studied we have got to get more input from the other departments and we have got to heart from secretary kerry. and you might have said look there are a lot of things that might have been said. you might have said look, you be the one who makes the decision. >> he is going to approve the pipeline i will tell you now. >> i don't know that he will approve the pipeline. >> he will. >> all i know h...

>> hopefully we're not building major pipelines that are there to last for a very long time because they do or don't create a lot or a few jobs. you build the pipeline because you have to or you don't. if we're going to talk about jobs, we should be talking about things like education. and by the way, infrastructure. those jobs that unquestionably get created when you rebuild a bridge or a highway or anything like that. bottom line on keystone, shame on us for not as a country being in a place where we don't still need to use very, very heavy and dirty carbon. the reality is that we are. and s...