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>> we'll find out if that ever happens. if that ever occur, we will know. the president by and large -- i'm mostly kidding. by and large the president doesn't address these things too head-on. on the irs he has bitten off a piece here and piece there. on nsa he said the people need to trust the government. yes, what he can do and what presidents before him have done is have a frank discussion with the american people about something. grou to the oval office, sit across the resolute desk and say, let me level with you, american people. the one place where he most needs to do that, the nsa, wher...

Order that would force everybody who applied for a federal contract to disclose their donors, went out of the chamber of commerce and accused them of taking foreign money, that's the context for you, julie. here is the problem. >> go ahead. >> the problem is what's happened here is we have broken the fundamental trust between our government and the people. if you showed that statistic in the last half hour that showed that 73% of the american people don't trust their government. that has implications beyond the irs scandal. we now have a situation with the nsa disclosures where people don't tr...

Sparking new concerns on online privacy and who's tracking you in cyber space. google is trying to rebuild its reputation following reports it helped the government spy on millions of americans. but the internet giant has a history of similar accusations. investigations have been questioning google's data mining practices for years. an internet security expert and the president of e forensic. thanks for being here. help us understand this. was google an unwitting partner to the nsa or willingly handing over our information to them. >> i don't know how you describe a willing partner. if they we...

Executive branch, were found to be directly effective in thwarting terrorist attacks and again i cite general alexander in his note yesterday that these programs have, over time, contributed to the thwarting of dozen offers attacks. >> after alexander testified, the quote dozens of terrorist events were disrupted by the program, democratic senators widen and udall, early critics of the nsa challenged those claims saying quote we have not yet seen any evidence showing that the nsa's drag net collections of americans phone records has produced any uniquely valuable intelligence. all of the plots...

Confidence in government. in 1960 or mid-60, 1965, it showed 73% of americans had confidence in their government. today, that exact same number, 73% have distrust in their government. it went from trust to distrust. is there any way to turn this around or have we all just become permanently jaded? >> well, those were simpler times, to be sure, alisyn. it's going to be difficult to turn it around. i think the person with the biggest problem is probably barack obama. i don't so much mean the scandal as his agenda. barack obama has been giving speeches for four years about how he wanted the gover...