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Authoritiyies who are investigating that. does that, you know, does that hamper the investigation? >> well, it slows it down. but i would not be surprised if he has an attorney by now telling him not to make any public statements. obviously, he's exposed, perhaps criminally, but certainly civilly. and i think both the school district and the chief have a lot to face on the civil side of things, so, he may be told not to cooperate. in the meantime, they're going to continue the investigation as best they can, but once doj gets involved, maybe that will change in terms of him actually cooperatin...

Thinking, does that make any sense to you? >> thank you for having me, anderson. no, no, of course not. from the reports we're getting, the broken pieces of reports, you had communication with the 911 operators that there were children or seriously injured victims inside and there needed to be a clear decision, whatever you want to term it, active shooter, barricade, there's potential loss of life, whether it be a child, an adult, there's human life at risk and a decision needs to be made to aggressively approach the sub subject. >> chief ramsey, we received information of dispatch call to 911...

Set up order of rank as to who's going to be the critical incident commander on scene. so this person kind of assumed it because he was the school district chief. at least i assume that's what happened, and took it over as his incident and immediately made a series of tragic decisions. >> how could he say that this was a barricaded suspect and not an active gunman? >> not with a straight face. i mean, what bothers me is he had training in december, five months ago, six months ago, and then he held training. he trained his officers in march. this -- i have not met a single law enforcement offic...

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Hopefully. >> and on that note, i want to show yo the viewers, your exchange, shimon, with the director of the texas department of public safety today. >> you have people who are alive, children who are calling 9-1-1 saying, please, send the police. they are alive in that class room. there are lives that are at risk. >> we are both well aware of that. >> right. why was this decision made not to go in and rescue these children? >> again, you know, the on-scene commander considered a barricaded subject and that there was time and no children at risk. obviously -- obviously, you know, based upon ...