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Party. he's really a moderate republican. he kind of acknowledged the only way he could have gotten elected back in the day was in the runoff election where he didn't have to run in a republican primary because he would have been attacked from the right. but right now he is in that group. he's very close to governor kasich of ohio and he is in that group that donald trump has said basically hasta la vista, baby to in the republican party. >> that was good, dave. i've got to give that to you. by the way, it's just so funny. i saw he's on the cover of the current "men's health" right now. with a...

Posture, bluff, hype based on wikileaks' twitter feed and miscellaneous tips. do you buy that? >> roger has been amending his story from day one on this. in fact, late this afternoon the "washington post" filed a really nice piece kind of cataloging his story as it's been amended. this is another amendment. because he denied talking to anybody in the campaign and he said oops, i didn't even remember i had an e-mail exchange with bannon and this claim. so roger is hard to take at face value, frankly. >> so john, even if stone -- let's say he was exaggerating his ties to wikileaks. if campaign o...

Authoritarian regime. our guest is a national security robe reporter for "the post" and she joins me now. these hackers, i guess they are named fancy bear and they were named in the indictment last month, when he was talking about interference in the 2016 election. what have they been doing exactly? >> so fancy bear or apt-28 is a unit of the russian military spy agency gru, the gru. and they have been active for years and years in information warfare campaigns across europe, western europe, european europe and the united states. and they famously hacked into the democratic national committee ...

>> don't underestimate yourself. i'm sure they will be watching. >> i'm not. i'm sober about the loyola rambl ramblers. a lot of people will want to watch them. >> we appreciate it. we will watch tomorrow. >> happy easter. >> happy easter. check it out tomorrow night at 7:00 eastern right here on cnn. more on our breaking mu ini coverage. investigators detaining and questioning ted malloch, asking him about roger stone and wick i can wikileaks. ick i can wikileaks. ck i can wikileaks. k i can wikileaks. i can wikileaks. i can wikileaks. can wikileaks. can wikileaks. an wikileaks. n wikileaks...

And what he told me today was the special counsel believes that roger stone was communicating with julian assange on wikileaks. now, again, this is his interpretation of what mueller is asking about, and he said, you know, stone is my mentor. and he did not collude with julian assange, and i'm just not -- i'm not going to talk about that before the grand jury. >> anderson? >> yes. >> it's really important to focus a little bit on what he was asked by mueller's office, at least generally, because a couple weeks ago mueller indicted 13 people for sort of the social media conspiracy, you know, th...