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Criminality. it's about telling the truth to the american people. and i don't know why that just because this may not be a crime, let's say, these payments to these women, let's assume it's not a crime, why is lying about it okay? >> look, chris, i mean, the president said he did not have anything to do with it. how do you know that he's lying? >> i have his voice on tape. >> you don't know that -- >> i have his voice on tape saying that he knows about it and directing the action. >> was it his voice on tape? >> yep. >> okay. well, look, you know, i don't know what goes on with the president a...

Confusing to have me around. i think that's what it ultimately came down to. >> sean: i was asking him if you have ever seen it this bad, and pat was talking about it, i've seen it. i've never witnessed such outright hostility yield -- hostility, vitriol, one sidedness, that the media is showing this president. >> do you remember when donald trump declared his presidency, "the huffington post" said they would only cover him in the entertainment section. that was a pattern right from the day he announced. and it was an amazing pattern where every time trump would do something, critics would jum...

Ultimately came down to. >> sean: i was asking him if you have ever seen it this bad, and pat was talking about it, i've seen it. i've never witnessed such outright hostility yield -- hostility, vitriol, one sidedness, that the media is showing this president. >> do you remember when donald trump declared his presidency, "the huffington post" said they would only cover him in the entertainment section. that was a pattern right from the day he announced. and it was an amazing pattern where every time trump would do something, critics would jump on it. but much of the republican electorate, and ...

I think that's what it ultimately came down to. >> sean: i was asking him if you have ever seen it this bad, and pat was talking about it, i've seen it. i've never witnessed such outright hostility, vitriol, one sidedness, that the media is showing this president. >> do you remember when donald trump declared his presidency, "the huffington post" said they would only cover him in the entertainment section. that was a pattern right from the day he announced. and it was an amazing pattern where every time trump would do something, critics would jump on it. but much of the republican electorate, ...

Ultimately came down to. >> sean: i was asking him if you have ever seen it this bad, and pat was talking about it, i've seen it. i've never witnessed such outright hostility yield -- hostility, vitriol, one sidedness, that the media is showing this president. >> do you remember when donald trump declared his presidency, "the huffington post" said they would only cover him in the entertainment section. that was a pattern right from the day he announced. and it was an amazing pattern where every time trump would do something, critics would jump on it. but much of the republican electorate, and ...