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Fought to the very end. there were not a lot of japanese prisoners like we took prisoners in world war ii in europe. so this saved lives. the danger i think that gene tibbitts is worried about is that ceremony has become kind of a ban nuclear weapons, this type thing, it's gone in a different direction rather than a memorial for those who died there. that's the danger of this. unfortunately it kind of fits into the apology attitude of this president and administration, to blame america. martha: you point out i think 140,000 people were killed when the bomb was dropped on hiroshima and you comp...

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Where hundreds of thousands of people died and their regime survived. >> hellbent on nuclear weapons regardless of economic isolation. gordon, let's go back to yesterday and what started all this. some say it's seven times stronger than the bomb dropped on hiroshima. >> there's going to be weeks of people going over data. for instance, we have the snitcher planes going through the air. in the north korea's first step in 2006, we were smelling all sorts of stuff that had been released into the atmosphere. the most recent tests, the north koreans have buried this stuff, sealed their tunnels so w...

Threat. what exactly is a hydrogen bomb? >> certainly does. it is more powerful, more sophisticated, and able to be more miniaturized, so it is a greater threat. but regardless if it is a hydrogen bomb or any other type, it is still a nuclear weapon. that's the key point here, i think. >> a nuclear weapons monitoring group is saying this bomb, again, the u.s. working to verify its authenticity, should it come to fruition that these reports are accurate, this is a bomb more powerful, 8 times potentially more powerful than the bomb dropped on hiroshima in world war ii. how worried should we be? ...

States. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> speaking of fire and fury the world had never seen, we should note it was on this day in 1945 that u.s. forces dropped the atomic bomb on nagasaki, japan, immediately incinerating 4,000 people. the day before that, the u.s. dropped a bomb on hiroshima. it braought an end to the actio of world war ii. the white house said the president spoke ex tetemporaneoy about fire and fury. barbara starr at the pentagon. what is going to happen if the nuclear weapons program