American people. when you do these kinds of things, if you have that connection, like right now, someone is connecting with me or with you or with angela, then they're going to listen to what we say with a more open ear. but if they go on one of these shows and they have virtually nothing in common with someone, that's also going to come across. so i think it helps both political parties, and it could hurt both political parties. it purely depends on who is actually on the receiving end of the interview, frankly. >> and the slow jam, the news clip, rev, just as an example, youtube views, over ...