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And we'll do everything we can to move our citizens out of harm's way. bill: you said the egyptian government cannot reshuffle the deck and stand pat and hillary clinton yesterday talked about a transition to democracies. what does that mean? transition to democracy? >> well, as president mubarak indicated on friday, he is reforming his government. he's named a new prime minister, named a vice president for the first time, as far as i remember in his 30-year tenure, as president. now the real key is what does that government do? clearly, as we have said there needs to be a process going forwar...

Report is accurate a call for a million egyptians to go to the streets tomorrow. which would far trump what we have seen today or even yesterday, or sunday or even saturday. you have to go back to thursday and friday of last week to get anywhere near those numbers and if that materializes what kind of a vice does that put hosni mubarak in then? >> of course, first and foremost whatever protests continue we want them to be peaceful and i think we are encouraging the army in egypt which is a very respected institution, is showing tremendous restraint. but, clearly, the government has to respond ...

Have indicated a need to leave. and at the same time we have american citizens, because the airport is still open, that i think -- making their own arrangements and using krer commercial aircraft and there is a flow of people moving out of egypt given the uncertainty of the situation. bill: a lot of that information literally changes by the hour and i read egypt air will not fly at nighttime and i don't know if that is true but let's assume that to be the case and it is 5:30 p.m. now there and the curfew is in effect and does that mean all flights are frozen until tomorrow? >> no, but, it's an...

Inside egypt and how the figures factor in this, again, we'll see. it will take some time to play out but we want to have a very determined process, open process, tapping into not only, you know, those that are currently serving the government, but, those who are in opposition, those from civil society, men and well, you know, open up political and economic dialogue, and then from there, lead the efforts towards reform. bill: there are elections scheduled in the fall. is it your view at the moment, given the actions of hosni mubarak over the past three days, that he's going to stick this out? ...

This procedural -- this procedural mechanism to -- i saw one headline today said that democrats plan to pass the healthcare bill in the senate without anybody voting for it. i just think that's the kind of politics as usual that has so many americans frustrated. when i was home this weekend i heard overwhelming opposition to this government take over, the mandates. the bureaucracy. up heard almost as much opposition to the way they are ramming this through in a sense of desperation. it's amazing that the people back in indiana and i think around this country are frustrated with the abuse of th...