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Exactly as he told lesley stahl, in order that no one will believe him. if the ig does the investigation that he's calling for, when the ig says there was nothing there, there was no one implanted, this was a legitimate investigation, the supporters of donald trump will reject that, even though they accepted the ig's report when he had negative things to say about mr. mccabe. so it's not fair. i don't know where the fairness is in this. but it's working, and donald trump is going to keep on doing it as long as it works. and until the democrats and the press stand up and rebut what he is saying...

Say about mr. mccabe. so it's not fair. i don't know where the fairness is in this. but it's working, and donald trump is going to keep on doing it as long as it works. and until the democrats and the press stand up and rebut what he is saying. >> our opening panel of three contains two lawyers and two journalists. we'll let the viewers work out the math on how we reached that conclusion. with our thanks to kimberly atkins, robert costa, jill wine-banks. appreciate you all very much for coming on tonight. coming up, a cabinet secretary today says she wasn't aware of the intel community's big...

Absolutely no factual predicate. it is something he has made up. and he attacks the press, exactly as he told lesley stahl, in order that no one will believe him. if the ig does the investigation that he's calling for, when the ig says there was nothing there, there was no one implanted, this was a legitimate investigation, the supporters of donald trump will reject that, even though they accepted the ig's report when he had negative things to say about mr. mccabe. so it's not fair. i don't know where the fairness is in this. but it's working, and donald trump is going to keep on doing it as l...

And now apparently trying to involve the attorney general in that strategy. very disturbing. >> frank, this does call for wild guess/speculation on your part, but if you're robert mueller reading this axios story, this headline tonight, how are you reacting? >> well, he's probably thinking that he could easily be the next one that's threatening to resign or actually being pressured to leave and is potentially fireable by the president. i can tell you this. justice will prevail. if wray is fired or released, mueller will continue on with the special counsel. if mueller is fired by the president...

Part, but if you're robert mueller reading this axios story, this headline tonight, how are you reacting? >> well, he's probably thinking that he could easily be the next one that's threatening to resign or actually being pressured to leave and is potentially fireable by the president. i can tell you this. justice will prevail. if wray is fired or released, mueller will continue on with the special counsel. if mueller is fired by the president, chris wray will ensure that the fbi picks up and continues that case. so the president would have to keep firing leadership after leadership after lead...