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Himself. what was it about the attorney general's interactions with the russians or his behavior with regard to the investigation that would have led the entire leadership of the fbi to make this decision? >> our judgment, as i recall, is that he was very close to and inevitably going to recuse himself for a variety of reasons. we also were aware of facts that i can't discuss in an opening setting that would make his continued engagement in a russia-related investigation problematic. so we were convinced -- in fact, i think we'd already heard the career people were recommending that he recuse ...

Director, was asked whether or not the fbi is investigating this. and he wouldn't answer that question directly. explain that situation to us. >> well, that's right. and that's, i think, what drew a lot of attention yesterday at this intelligence hearing. the senate intelligence hearing on capitol hill. comey was testifying along side the senior officials, the officials who actually briefed donald trump and president obama last week. he was asked by ron wyden, the senator, when he was indeed looking into these contacts. and one of the things that happens with ron wyden, he often asks questions...