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Might be political. here now is mike penn and former advisor to president bill clinton. thanks for being here. you say in your piece avenatti is acting less like an attorney and more like a journalist or someone doing opera research for a democratic party. exactly who is he you say? a lawyer, and opposition or campaign operative? >> i don't know about and where that is 100 interviews on cnn and tells their client to ignore a nondisclosure agreement. it raised a lot of questions and all i did was really question where is he being paid? it says he's got a crowd sourced funding but that was not s...

This phony, russian steele dossier. they funneled that money to a law firm, that money then goes to fusion gps, they hire a foreign national, a spy, christopher steele, and by the way, the wife of the fourth highest ranking member of the doj, nellie ohr, you put it altogether, opera research, unverified lies against donald trump. nobody verify this information, nobody. even steele said under oath, the contents were raw intelligence. he did not stand by his own dossier. but it gets worst -- the dossier is leaked to the press. why? to show you that the american people, russian lies. again, the f...