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Safety barriers. it they had to take them apart to get to the people injured on the sidewalk. all accounts are that the emts and the first responders did an absolutely magnificent job of an out of nowhere event. my sense is now, having been around, is that the federal response is starting to take over from the local response. i think don alluded to this earlier, the joint operating center, then it's a federal investigation. the boston police, the ones i spoke to who were on the scene, they were very nervous, jumpy. the worst two words in the english language for me today were secondary device....

Many ways except it's human. and that is such a counterbalance to all those other images we've seen in the past with the gun at his side and this really confident manner about how he's going to destroy america. >> you've written so well in "looming tower" about the relationship -- i mean, the history of al qaeda and the relationship between zawahiri and bin laden. what role -- do you think zawahiri now takes over al qaeda? >> i wouldn't be surprised if he's been running it for some time. i can't believe that that was really an operating center for al qaeda given how difficult entry and egress ...

And suddenly we got this other view. it's very brief. it's not that significant in many ways, except it's human. and that is such a counterbalance to all the images we have seen in the past with the gun at his side and this really confident manner about how he is going to destroy america. >> you've written so well in "looming tower" about the history of al qaeda and the relationship between zawahiri and bin laden. what role do you think zawahiri now takes over al qaeda? >> i wouldn't be surprised if he has been running it for some time. i can't believe that was really an operating center for a...

Do you think? >> yes. i think that it's perfectly legitimate. i mean, we're seeing a side of bin laden that he hasn't allowed us to see and is very rare in our entire career with osama bin laden to see anything human. it's simply the legend that he's putting forward. the figure that he has created for us to understand him. and suddenly we got this other view. it's very brief. it's not that significant in many ways except it's human. and that is such a counterbalance to all those images we've seen in the past with the gun at his side and this really confident manner about how he's going to dest...

And that is such a counterbalance to all those images we've seen in the past with the gun at his side and this really confident manner about how he's going to destroy america. >> you've written so well in "looming tower" about the relationship -- i mean, the history of al qaeda and the relationship between zawahiri and bin laden. what role does -- do you think zawahiri now takes over al qaeda? >> i wouldn't be surprised if he's been running it for some time. i can't believe that that was really an operating center for al qaeda given how difficult entry and egress was. you know, he must have be...