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Well coming in was baker. the other two guys knew him very well from california. they got along great. the president has nobody in the mix right now that he can turn to to say that he's had 10, 15 years of operating experience with. tell me one person inside the white house -- >> his kids. >> his kids. okay, but they are, you know, a generation younger than him 37. i'm talking about something like a deaver, somebody like -- >> i don't disagree with that. but there's a reason that people either didn't want to stay, got pushed out, or to -- >> you said to me if i wanted to be objective and total...
Without a good managerial structure around him -- let's use reagan as an example, okay? reagan put meese in there, baker in there. he put deaver in there. the only one he didn't know that well coming in was baker. the other guys knew him well from california. they got along great. the president has nobody in the mix right now that he can turn to to say that he's had 10, 15 years of operating experience with. tell me one person inside the white house -- >> his kids. >> his kids. only, but they are a generation younger than him. i'm talking about something like a deaver, something like a -- >> i...
Situation? >> yes. i want to see what your background and training is. the co-pilot was probably on the initial operating experience because he had very few hours. >> obviously more information will come out on this as it develops. we appreciate your time sir. of course, we are staying on this story as the desperate search for the airasia plane continues. of course, it vanished over the pacific and families right now -- these are the pictures as they wait helplessly for answers. we are live with the answers at the top of the hour.
We just don't know the. >> i suppose, erin, you could imagine a scenario in this case with this crew. think about this crew for a moment. you have the senior high time 18,000 hour 30-year veteran check airman pilot. he's the pilot everybody wants to be with a first officer on his first flight after his initial operating experience. so this is a dynamic in which the captain has more than the average authority over the first officer. >> right. >> could there have about a scenario where the first officer left the flight deck, the door was locked and that was it. there was one person inside the fl...