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Country on what the goal should be. i hope trump talks about it tonight. >> carl, as you look back in your time in the bush administration and remember what this fight was like then, are you astounded that we're still having this conversation? >> well, president bush in his first state of the union in 2003 warned that the fight against terrorism would not finish on his watch. you can't predict when this will end. but there's been not only a significant change in the number of troops in afghanistan. more importantly, there's been a change in their operating rules. in november of 2016, they said...

Rule nine of the party's operating rules, which deals with a vacancy apartment the top of the ticket, could allow for some maneuvering here. how do you see this? is there any possible way that trump could step aside? >> to be honest, i think the rule is written for the case of a nominee who can't continue in the role. it's not meant for a coup, and there's one word in the rule, the word "otherwise" that people are trying to hang the coup on. and i think that would not stand amongst the majority of the current rnc members. as a viable option. so the real alternative, the only alternative, is th...

How capable are rescue crews to get there in a short period of time? >> i investigated in a very similar care area in casper, wy, which had similar topography to that area, demand that search -- i'd have to see what the weather conditions are there right now. it starts with the helicopter search. if there is any kind of flight tracking -- this is what we questioned in mh370. because we didn't have the flight tracking to tell us where the aircraft was. in this smaller jet, it's under a different set of operating rules. so i doubt they had flight following on this aircraft. so it's going to be a...

Actually. but most of the history of the atr 42 when it comes to accidents, have to do with flying in severe weather and icing. several years ago the ice had bullet up built up on the wing and caused it to be too heavy. since that time, there have been a lot of improvements, including procedural on what you fly into and what you don't. >> it's a regional jet and there are different operating rules. was there flight tracking capability on a plane like this? >> there is flight tracking capability. it's not like what we talked

Because it will take a long time. i do think that the governor is absolutely correct. better to be in the hands of the justice department and fbi, which will be presumably independent and professional, than in the hands of a congressional committee that many people have been suspicious of the motives. >> he did call for it to go to a third party. he wasn't asking for it himself. the chairman called for it to be handed over to a third party. this isn't against wishes of the committee investigating benghazi. >> howard, is it fair to say if this were a republican secretary of state and someone yo...