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The british government says that the group has some 20,000 mercenaries fighting in ukraine and national security council spokesman john kirby says that the group is spending more than $100 million per month in ukraine. let's bring in joel rubin former deputy secretary of state under president obama. joel, thank you for coming in today and happy holidays to you. >> happy holidays, anita. >> thank you. i wonder if i could have you start by explaining to our viewers what the group is. described as a private paramilitary organization like private army of vladimir putin. is that correct? >> yeah, y...

>> he's dead. well. >> harris: what are the he's dead as a doornail. objectives in terms of those reportedly, behind the scenes of he didn't die bravely, either. isis, because they were putting oilfields, for example? is this a long-term commitment? i will tell you that. people into place in their how will we know that protecting hierarchy. he should have been killed year the u.s. and forces will hunt them, the mission is over? the leadership. ago. that other president should have who backs up al-baghdadi at this >> they were there and supposed gotten them. point? what do we know about the bac...

Longer working. it's not like you have an employee of a large company saying i can speak for everything that ever happened. the trump campaign is donald trump, right? a campaign initially self-funded by donald trump. it has his name in the title. then he had other donations. it existed for the sole benefit of donald trump to become president which he did -- and all of these tightly run operation operations. >> it could sound normal in other situations, well not ge, or someone in the federal government. my employee is a contractor in texas. but this is the trump campaign of donald trump. >> wer...

For russian influence operation operations. >> and that was director of national intelligence dan coats as a senate hearing today addressing worldwide threats. some democrats claim while the intelligence community is taking the threat of election meddling seriously, the president is not. joining me now, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, great to have you with us. let's start there with a russia threat. we've heard discussions today that they have already started meddling in these 2018 election elections. >> i don't doubt it, this fits a pattern that the russians have followed, the ...