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Involved in this investigation and questioning of this whole program, he is of course the ranking member on the senate judiciary committee. senator grace grassley thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you, martha. martha: the word this morning, the news coming from our reporter on this, william la jeunesse, there will be a second subpoena now to doj and that the difference in this one is that the first one focused on information they wanted from atf. but this one is going straight to the department of justice to try to ascertain how much eric holder and others knew about this program...

Period of time. but i'm sure they have a number of questions that they would like answered about how this whole operation ran. >> one of the ten defendants anna chapman, a new york businesswoman got more exposure when her former husband released revealing pictures of her to a london tabloid. legal sources say before the exchange with the russians those ten defendants here would have to plead guilty but this is a fast moving case. those pleas could come within a matter of days. pete williams, nbc news, washington. so i still think they want that one back. i just think it might be -- >> rudolp...

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