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Look, the thing about chris christie that has made him popular not just with the media, but with moderates and independents is that he is not crazy. when his state needed -- when his state needed help, he put politics aside and worked with the president to help the people of his state at a time when the american people are so tired of the divisions and arguments. >> he is also a straight talker. he is also authentic. he is a real american. no one can say he is blown dried. that was the great virtue of chris christie. if he survives this, he'll be stronger than ever. but if it turns out he is l...

Independents is that he is not crazy. when his state needed -- when his state needed help, he put politics aside and worked with the president to help the people of his state at a time when the american people are so tired of the divisions and arguments. >> he is also a straight talker. he is also authentic. he is a real american. no one can say he is blown dried. that was the great virtue of chris christie. if he survives this, he'll be stronger than ever. but if it turns out he is lying, he is through. >> and even giuliani i've always defended giuliani because i went to school with guys like...