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Ship? >> it is. it's it certainly suggests that there was significant flooding of some sort. we don't yet know whether that was caused by a hull breach or equipment or operator error. for a ship 500 feet long to turn on its side and capsize in just a matter of hours means that the stability was affected very quickly boyian is i was lost quickly and then the vessel went down. so it certainly suggests that it's some type of significant flooding, just don't yet know what the source, what the cause was for that. >> you know, when you talk about the flooding though, aren't there sealed chambers dow...

>> again, as we just said, we have that new video in, we'll play that as we talk to the experts we have now. in boston is peter boynton, retired u.s. coast guard captain and co-director of the research institute for homeland security at northeastern university. in seattle, rob mccallem. he is an ocean search specialist and expedition leader. peter, first to you. i don't know if you can see this video, but does it give you any insight as to what happened on this ship? >> well, information at the beginning here is still coming in, but the speed at which the ship turned on its side and capsized c...

Hospitals. the national transportation safety board arrived here on scene in the last hour and they are now taking the lead of that investigation, we're expecting an update here from them shortly in the next hour, jenna. jenna: in that update, garrett, have they had a chance to talk and interview the driver yet? >> we spoke with someone from the chicago transit authority a short time ago and they said they have spoken to the train's operator. they say she was at the very front of that first car that went up the stairs and the escalator. she only had minor injuries. they have spoken to her. we ...

So they are looking exactly how this happened. they're saying at this time this train is going to be up on the escalator and stairs for much of the day as they work to dismantle it and take it off the train and can look further into this. 10 ambulances were brought to the scene though and in special crews, initially they thought there could be people stuck underneath those trains. they learned just a couple hours ago that wasn't the case. they say thankfully this was much slower period, one. slowest periods they have at an early, early, monday morning period, martha. martha: wow, that is good ...

Time. >> i will say, toyota did lose in oklahoma a civil wrongful death case arising out of one of these acceleration case. >> people died here. so i understand the concern. >> yeah, but they may have died because of operator error. >> that's true. that's true. there is no evidence really that points to the manufacturer of the vehicle. >> a good lawyer can convince a civil jury of santa claus, the easter bunny and the tooth fairy. just because one verdict was had on behalf of the plaintiffs, doesn't mean that the entire toyota line of vehicles is faulty. >> i guess it does not. i'm certainly n...