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Even if the troops don't get involved in anything illegal there's an optics issue that they could be dragged into conflicts that would not look good on the world stage. >> why is this issue of lethal force and troops at the border such a contentious idea internally within the white house? >> it's a great question. u.s. troops are not supposed to conduct any civilian law enforcement, and when the president has said that he wants troops to have broad authority on the border i think it's raised concern within the military that they might be asked to conduct civilian law enforcement. the issue, i ...

Of less in tax burden. that's actually much more elegant than trying to play the game where we put a deduction for this and a special carve out for this and that, and that's the perversity of our modern tax system. we're doing something so much simpler and fairer. leland: congressman, nobody is going to argue that the tax code is complex and needs to be reformed. from a optics issue, an abc poll, 67% of americans say this tax cut is going to benefit the rich. whether they're right or not, that's how they're seeing it. my question is how are republicans going to convince the american people tha...

Presidency as being something totally different than we've seen in the past, and i think that it's only adding to this optics issue that has plagued trump's presidency since the beginning. >> thank you so much for being here this morning. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. to london now, where police are announcing a significant arrest linked to yesterday's terror incident in a subway car. nbc's keir simmons is live with the very latest. what are you learning about this? >> reporter: well, dara, this arrest was made under british terrorism laws. it took place in dover, which is a port...

You know, photographer, turns out he's state tv. >> absolutely. >> arm of the kremlin. and all the questions and concerns he got into the oval office. how could that possibly happen? >> well, he was invited into the oval office as part of the official delegation. to michelle's point earlier, this is an optics issue, this is not a security issue. >> it's not? >> it's not a security issue. here's why, the secret service, the white house, they have policies and procedures to allow foreign press toll co come on t complex, have their equipment screened, even into into the oval office as part of a j...

Going to defy that. some people have told us they are not going to pay attention to the curfew. that they are grown and they're going to be here. but we also know that plenty of people have said, we are not going to jail, and we are going to go home, don. >> all right, sara, don't go anywhere. stand by. nick valencia, i'm not sure if nick is there as well. i just want to tell our viewers, two minutes until the top of the hour. two minutes until 10:00 p.m. eastern time in baltimore, maryland, where a mandatory curfew is going into effect here. we've been watching every night this week, starting...