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Even trump's first campaign manager, corey lewandowski when he said there had been voter fraud in new hampshire said that was no true. there was no evidence of that. >> here is not what is fake, i think is important. we've been doing a lot of reporting on reporting investigations team how to prevent russian interference in 2020. we heard back from dozens who almost all of whom said the administration has not been proactive telling them much how to make sure the next election is not messed with by moscow or whomever. the white house response is to point to this election integrity commission, le...

Here is a good test case. >> let's bring in our panel. president for the center of american progress and kevin maddon, republican strategist. kevin, this crisis has really brought governor perry back into the spotlight in a way that -- i knew he was thinking about possibly running for president again in 2016 and he likes to remind people that it took three times or two times for other candidates in the past, reagan or whomever. how do you see this actually helping him, if it does? >> i look back to the 2012 campaign when governor perry first got in. the reason he flourished and did so well and...

Actually necessary. we seem to be unable to keep secrets anymore when it comes to the actual specifics of threats. but, you know, now they've been talking about this, and so what they're trying to do is develop a liquid explosive that would not be detectable -- what they understand as being standard procedures and capabilities right now. and that could include either liquids in the form of a bottle posing as a drink, it could be liquid, interestingly enough, that they actually put clothing or other materials into. then that liquid dries, and suddenly you've got a sweater or whatever it may be ...