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There could be some transfer of those bodily fluids? if not actually blood? >> so there is no hemorrhage. so there is no clot. just superficial. >> your opinion is there wouldn't -- if that abrasion were to come in contact with someone's clothing, there would be no transfer of biological matter? >> it could be. because the superficial skin was off. so -- so i believe there a possibility after this injury, the superficial skin could transfer from one person to anoth another. any time you have contact you have some transfer. it's called trace evidence. it's in the book. trace evidence means you ...

Is the evidence -- hypothetically if the evidence showed photographs there at the scene by the police department that the body was covered in a tarp, or a tarp was covered over the body, would that in some way protect the body? >> yeah. before i came here i did review the scene photos. not because i went to scene but because i reviewed the photos. >> you reviewed photos that were taken by the investigator? >> yeah. i reviewed a few days ago, even yesterday. >> right. was there indication the body had been covered at the scene? >> yeah. according to my memory, my new memory. not the memory of o...

Bao. he was just excused. he was on the stand for quite a chunk of the day. he was the person who conducted that final autopsy on the body of 17-year-old trayvon martin. and earlier today, this was prerecess, something happened that you actually rarely see in a court of law. >> are you reading from something now. >> yeah, yeah. i typed down my stuff. >> may i see what you're referring to, please? may i approach the witness? >> because i puzzled by that. i could not remember the thing. >> your honor, may the witness not answer until i've had a chance to -- >> yes. >> okay. >> show me what you'r...

>> i don't think so. >> you couldn't have been? >> it's so superficial. the blood vessel did not have injury. >> all right. so if there had been some blood that you didn't see, it could have been wiped off? >> objection. speculation. >> sustained. >> the body reacts to being injured by putting some fluids, too, correct? >> yeah. >> even if it's not blood, there could be some other bodily fluids that would kind of come to help start the healing? >> right. an injury for any place in the body, the body will try to get more blood to the area to get more nutrition, to get more white blood cells to ...

Place, this side bar hear ing. the jury is still out of the room. let's just try to understand maybe not necessarily what's happening because we're not in there and you're not the attorneys there. i don't want to put you in an awkward position, eleanor and tonya. let's talk about the process of resting a case. the state officially rested. i'm getting in my ear from the control room. so jury is still not in the room. to rest without the jury? is that typical? >> well, not necessarily. but then they could bring the jury back in and you could say on the record the state rests. >> okay. just big p...